torstai 7. maaliskuuta 2013

Trying to finally finalize the PvZ build

1st game
5:23              core finishes
5:32              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:34            3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                    
9:46             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:31           8 gates
10:09           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           50 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 5 zealots
11:30           50 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 9 zealots     
12:10           50 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 18 zealots     
12:31           50 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 27 zealots

Robo             sentry
1st immo       gate + sentry
2nd immo     gate + sentry
3rd immo      2 gates + 1 sentry
wp                 3 gates + 2 sentry

--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?
--> chrono robo moar, 2nd & 3rd immo not chronoed enough
--> avoid supply block


2nd game - seemed very good game!!
5:23              core finishes
5:32              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:20             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                    
9:22             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:15           8 gates
10:03           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 2 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           43 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 11 zealots
11:30           43 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 22 zealots     
12:10           43 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 31 zealots     
12:30           43 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 37 zealots

Robo             sentry
1st immo       gate + sentry
2nd immo      gate
3rd immo      gate
wp                 4 gates + 3 sentry
why doesn't these seem to add up?

--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?
--> chrono robo moar, 2nd & 3rd immo not chronoed enough
--> avoid supply block


3rd game
5:23              core finishes
5:39              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:30             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                    
9:32             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:58           8 gates
10:03           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 2 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           51 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 8 zealots
11:30           51 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 17 zealots     
12:10           51 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 25 zealots     
12:30           51 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots

Robo             sentry
1st immo       gate + sentry
2nd immo      gate + 2 sentry
3rd immo      gate
wp                 4 gates + 3 sentry

--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?               OK
--> chrono robo moar, 2nd & 3rd immo not chronoed enough
--> avoid supply block


4th game
5:21              core finishes
5:28              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:37             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                    
9:13             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:52           8 gates
10:11           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           51 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 10 zealots
11:30           51 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 16 zealots     
12:10           51 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 23 zealots     
12:30           51 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 31 zealots

Robo             sentry + gate
1st immo       sentry
2nd immo      gate + 2 sentry
3rd immo      2 gates + 3 sentries
wp                 3 gates + 4 sentry

--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> chrono robo moar, 2nd & 3rd immo not chronoed enough
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo
--> avoid supply block

5th game
5:22              core finishes
5:34              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:46             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                    
9:33             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:28           8 gates
10:07           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 1 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 11 zealots
11:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 20 zealots     
12:10           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 24 zealots     
12:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots

Robo             sentry + gate
1st immo       sentry
2nd immo      gate + 2 sentry
3rd immo      2 gates + 3 sentries
wp                 3 gates + 4 sentry

--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> chrono robo moar, 2nd & 3rd immo not chronoed enough
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo


6th game
5:20              core finishes
5:30              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:27             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                    
9:12             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:37           8 gates
10:01           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 10 zealots
11:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 15 zealots     
12:10           45 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 26 zealots     
12:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 31 zealots

Robo             sentry + gate
1st immo       sentry
2nd immo      gate + 2 sentry
3rd immo      2 gates + 3 sentries
wp                 3 gates + 4 sentry

--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough                                                               OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> chrono robo moar, 2nd & 3rd immo not chronoed enough
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo

7th game
5:21              core finishes
5:29              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:15             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                6 chronos    
9:33             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:39           8 gates
10:02           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 12 zealots
11:30           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 21 zealots     
12:03           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots     
12:34           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 39 zealots

Robo             sentry
1st immo       sentry + gate
2nd immo      gate + sentry
3rd immo      2 gates
wp                 3 gates + 3 sentry

--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough                                                               OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 chronos on robo                                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK

GREATNESS upto immortal production <3 <3


8th game
5:24              core finishes
5:37              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:15             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)   
9:33             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:39           8 gates
10:02           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 12 zealots
11:30           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 21 zealots     
12:03           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots     
12:34           42 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 39 zealots

Robo             sentry + gate
1st immo       sentry
2nd immo      gate + sentry
3rd immo      2 gates
wp                 4 gates + 4 sentry

--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough                                                               OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                         :(
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK
--> do not make 9 gates!



9th game
5:23              core finishes
5:30              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:14             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)             
9:28             8 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:58             10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:37           8 gates                  
11:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 17 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 13 zealots
11:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 17 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 13 zealots, 8 stalkers     
12:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 17 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 22 zealots, 8 stalkers       
12:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 17 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 28 zealots, 8 stalkers 

Robo             sentry
1st immo       sentry + gate
2nd immo      gate + sentry
3rd immo      gate + sentry
wp                 5 gates + 2 sentry

!? could be that it is required to make another sentry right when possible? but is there then enough gass for all the immos?

--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                     :(
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://

hmn, there seems to be still problems with getting immortals out early enough
in this game
1st immo started      6:36
2nd immo started    7:15
3rd immo started     7:49
wp started                8:17


10th game
5:22              core finishes
5:31              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:12             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                
9:07             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:47             10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:32           8 gates                  
11:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 13 zealots
11:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 18 zealots, 8 stalkers     
12:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 24 zealots, 8 stalkers       
12:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 34 zealots, 8 stalkers 

Robo             sentry
1st immo       sentry + gate
2nd immo      gate + sentry
3rd immo      gate + sentry
wp                 5 gates + 4 sentry

--> remember to research warptech!!!
--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                     :(
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               OK

hmn, there seems to be still problems with getting immortals out early enough
in this game
1st immo started      6:37 (6:36)
2nd immo started    7:17 (7:15)
3rd immo started     7:51 (7:49)
wp started                8:28 (8:17)


11th game
5:23              core finishes
5:30              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:19             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)   
9:24             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:47             10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:39           8 gates                  
11:00           48 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 15 zealots
11:30           48 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 24 zealots
12:00           48 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 29 zealots     
12:30           48 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 37 zealots

--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                  :(
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                    OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               OK

in this game
1st immo started      6:35 (6:36)
2nd immo started    7:14 (7:15)
3rd immo started     7:52 (7:49)
wp started                8:36 (8:17)

12th game
5:23              core finishes
5:36              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:25             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)   
9:12             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:57             11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:45           8 gates                  
11:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 14 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 12 zealots
11:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 14 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 17 zealots
12:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 14 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 25 zealots     
12:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 14 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 32 zealots

--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                  :(
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                    OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               OK

in this game
1st immo started      6:41 (6:36)
2nd immo started    7:19 (7:15)
3rd immo started     8:05 (7:49)
wp started              8:46 (8:17)

13th game
5:23              core finishes
5:29              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:12             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)       
9:28             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:05           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:20           8 gates                  
11:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 6 zealots
11:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 15 zealots
12:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 31 zealots     
12:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 34 zealots

--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                  :(
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                    OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               OK


14th game
5:23              core finishes
5:29              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:09             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)       
9:03             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:52             10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:36           8 gates                  
11:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 7 zealots
11:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 16 zealots
12:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 25 zealots     
12:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 37 zealots

--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                  :(
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                    OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               OK

in this game
1st immo started      6:35 (6:36)
2nd immo started    7:07 (7:15)
3rd immo started     7:52 (7:49)
wp started              8:16 (8:17)


15th game
5:22              core finishes
5:29              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:13             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)       
9:17             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:41            10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:37           8 gates                  
11:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 9 zealots
11:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 16 zealots
12:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 25 zealots     
12:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 34 zealots

--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                  :(
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                    OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                                :(



16th game - after break due to HOTS
5:23              core finishes
5:32              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:25             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                   --> forgot chrono ? yes, only 5
9:30             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:57            10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:38           8 gates                  
11:00           51 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 9 zealots
11:30           51 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 16 zealots
12:00           51 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 25 zealots     
12:30           51 probes, 1 stalker, 16 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 34 zealots

--> make pylon for robo early enough                                                             OK
--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> do 2 chrono boosts before putting robo down -> enough minerals           OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  :(
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                OK 
or make gates no sentries?
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       :(
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                  :(
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                    OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                                OK


17th game
5:21              core finishes
5:30              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:15             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                  
9:23             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:59            11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
11:12           8 gates                  
11:00           50 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 7 zealots
11:30           50 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 10 zealots
12:00           50 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 17 zealots     
12:30           50 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 27 zealots

--> chrono before putting 1st gate, chrono 3 times before robo, not too soon OK
--> make pylon for robo early enough                                                             OK
--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  :(
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp?                :(
or make gates no sentries?
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                OK
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                   OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               :(
--> remember upgrade                                                                                       OK 


18th game
5:26              core finishes
5:31              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:12             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                  
9:14             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
--:--             11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:33           8 gates                  
11:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 8 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 15 zealots
11:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 21 zealots
12:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 28 zealots     
12:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 39 zealots

--> chrono before putting 1st gate, chrono 3 times before robo, not too soon OK
--> make pylon for robo early enough                                                             OK
--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  ~OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp                     OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                OK
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                   OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               :(
--> remember upgrade                                                                                       OK

robo:            sentry
1st immo:    gate + sentry
2nd immo:   gate + sentry
3rd immo:    2 gates + sentry
wp:              3 gates + 3 sentry



19th game
5:23              core finishes
5:32              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:39             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                  
10.05             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
--:--             11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
bad supply block

--> chrono before putting 1st gate, chrono 3 times before robo, not too soon OK
--> make pylon for robo early enough                                                             OK
--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  ~OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp                     OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> remember the ~70 pylon                                                                            :(
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                OK
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                   OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               OK
--> remember upgrade                                                                                       OK


20th game
5:21              core finishes
5:31              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:16             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                  
9:55             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
9:55             9 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:13           8 gates                  
11:00           49 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 12 zealots
11:30           49 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 21 zealots
12:00           49 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots     
12:30           49 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots

--> chrono before putting 1st gate, chrono 3 times before robo, not too soon OK
--> make pylon for robo early enough                                                             OK
--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp                     :(
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> remember the ~70 pylon                                                                            OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                OK
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                   OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               :(
--> remember upgrade                                                                                       OK

robo:            sentry
1st immo:    gate + sentry
2nd immo:   gate + sentry
3rd immo:    2 gates + sentry
wp:              3 gates + 3 sentry
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> :((

21th game
5:22              core finishes
5:27              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:21             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                  
9:17             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:07           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:11           8 gates                  
11:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 5 zealots
11:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 15 zealots
12:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 15 zealots     
12:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 15 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 25 zealots

--> chrono before putting 1st gate, chrono 3 times before robo, not too soon OK
--> make pylon for robo early enough                                                             OK
--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  :(
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp                    OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> remember the ~70 pylon                                                                            OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                OK
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                   OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               :(
--> remember upgrade                                                                                       OK 
--> wait untill upgrade to attack                                                                        OK
--> supply blocks                                                                                               2:28

robo:            sentry + gate
1st immo:    no gate + sentry
2nd immo:   gate + sentry
3rd immo:    2 gates + sentry
wp:              3 gates + 3 sentry
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> :(

22nd game
5:27              core finishes
5:33              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:28             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                  
9:32             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:16           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:36           8 gates                  
11:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 13 zealots
11:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 23 zealots
12:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 29 zealots     
12:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 12 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 33 zealots

--> chrono before putting 1st gate, chrono 3 times before robo, not too soon OK
--> make pylon for robo early enough                                                             OK
--> remember to research warptech!!!                                                             OK
--> make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                  OK
--> try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp                    OK
--> 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                       OK
--> do not build wp before 3rd immo                                                            OK
--> do not build too many sentries - not enough gass for immo                      OK
--> remember the ~70 pylon                                                                            OK
--> do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                                OK
--> do not make 9 gates!                                                                                   OK
--> put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               OK
--> remember upgrade                                                                                       OK 
--> wait untill upgrade to attack                                                                        OK
--> supply blocks (target 0:30)                                                                       0:41

robo:            sentry
1st immo:    gate + sentry
2nd immo:   gate + sentry
3rd immo:    (2) 1 gates + 0 sentry
wp:              (3) 4 gates + (3) 4 sentry
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> :(


23rd game
5:22              core finishes
5:28              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:10             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                  
9:13             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:27           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp   
10:20           8 gates                  
11:00           47 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 21 zealots
11:30           47 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 27 zealots
12:00           47 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 27 zealots     
12:30           47 probes, 1 stalker, 11 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 35 zealots

[OK] chrono ~putting 1st gate, chrono 3 times before robo                             
[OK] gasses need to be made early enough                                                       
[OK] make pylon for robo early enough                                                            
[OK] remember to research warptech!!!                                                           
[OK] make the 3rd pylon early enough (37-38)                                                
[OK] try not to be too eager to build gates: gate + sentry untill wp                    
[OK] 6 complete chronos on robo                                                                     
[OK] do not build wp before 3rd immo                                                              
[OK] do not build too many sentries early - not enough gass for immo                     
[OK] remember the ~70 pylon                                                                            
[OK] do not build too many sentries in the late stage either                              
[OK] do not make 9 gates!                                                                                  
[ :(  ] put dudes to 4th gass ://                                                                               
[OK] remember upgrade                                                                                      
[OK] wait untill upgrade to attack                                                                       
[ :(  ] supply blocks (target 0:30)                                                                      

[OK] robo:            sentry
[OK] 1st immo:    gate + sentry
[OK] 2nd immo:   gate + sentry
[~~~] 3rd immo:   2 gates + 0 sentry
[~~~] wp:               3 gates + (3) 4 sentry
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> :(



maanantai 25. helmikuuta 2013

Thoughts on reacting

Zomgs, a newbie Tuesday about HOTS! Just finished the 1st part and felt improvised. On the 1st part our god Day[9] showed how reacting wrongly to unraveled weakness can end up badly. Seems that you need to be familiar with your own build and the quality of your opponents weakness. While the latter remained a bit unclear for me, the former stroked me.

Reacting with your build:
1) Your strategy is defined by your buildings
2) You aim to produce the desired buildings as fast as possible
3) The speed you can build your buildings is slowed down by how much you make defending units
         --> if you opponent does not have string force many units you can cut your defending units
         --> if you weaken your opponents economy you need to be able to have better economy

lauantai 9. helmikuuta 2013

Holy smoly, no games in a week ;__;

Work and life in general can have bad effect on gaming time :/. But lets see what I still got.

Played 3 games vs compu. Man felt sticky.
PvP - game 1
PvZ - game 2
PvT - game 3


Last time PvP was like this:
24th game - after 2 days break...
5:02        dt shrine put down                    
6:57        2 dt:s in enemy base timing (target: 6:50-7:00)

6:01        nexus put down
8:57        charge ready        
8:53        5 gates ready
9:45      2 archon, 9 zealots (target 9:00)

9:17     Robo put down (was put down really early, almost right after charge)
10:23     Robo finishes
10:27     Bay put down        
14:30     +1 attack ready     (target 14:00)
13:43     3 colossai ready    (target 13:30)
14:33     3 colossai at the enemy base + 40 zealots, 47 probes (target 14:00)

Make 2nd gass right after core                                                                        OK
Nexus was delayed by pylon, do not make that pylon
Move probe early enough to plant nexus                                                           OK
Make zealots & archons & chrono charge while not all gates                           OK
Chrono charge 3 times                                                                                       but maybe not?
Do not supply block when doing 2nd all in                                                       OK
Probe transfer when the natu is ready                                                                OK    
Do not supply block while making colossai                                                     
Place the gates better.                                                                                         OK
Put the charge before gates if enough gass..                                                      OK
Leave a dt to guard                                                                                             OK
Remember probes to 4th & 5th gass                                                                  OK

But this time...
25th game - after a week break
5:17        dt shrine put down                                                           because the damn gass was late
7:15        2 dt:s in enemy base timing (target: 6:50-7:00)

5:56        nexus put down (28/34)
9:11        charge ready        
8:50        5 gates ready
9:31        2 archon, 8 zealots (target 9:00)

9:57       Robo put down
11:03     Robo finishes
11:03     Bay put down        
14:36     +1 attack ready     (target 14:00)
14:12     3 colossai ready    (target 13:30)
15:05     3 colossai at the enemy base + 40 zealots, 47 probes (target 14:00)

Make 2nd gass right after core                                                                        :((
Nexus was delayed by pylon, do not make that pylon                                  OK
Move probe early enough to plant nexus                                                           OK
Make zealots & archons & chrono charge while not all gates                           OK
Do not supply block when doing 2nd all in                                                       :/
Probe transfer when the natu is ready                                                                 :((     
--> when dt:s ready or when gates slammed down
Do not supply block while making colossai                                                      OK
Place the gates better.                                                                                         OK
Put the charge before gates if enough gass..                                                      OK
Leave a dt to guard                                                                                             OK
Put gass after 1st robo
Remember probes to 4th & 5th gass                                                                  OK


Last time PvZ was like this..
4th game
5:22              core finishes
5:34              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:29              3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                  
9:22             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
11:07           8 gates
10:13           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 2 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 8 zealots
11:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 16 zealots     
12:10           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 24 zealots     
12:40           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots

Robo             sentry
1st immo       2 gates + sentry
2nd immo      gate + sentry
3rd immo       gate + 3 sentry
wp                 3 gates + 1 sentry

Build rest of the gates (3?) right after wp
More chrono, 3 chrono bef. rob

But this time...
5th game
5:22              core finishes
5:36              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:50              3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                 blocked 
9:25             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:58           8 gates
10:05           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 1 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 7 zealots
11:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 9 zealots     
12:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 13 zealots     
12:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 21 zealots

Put gasses right after gate, do not stop probes!
Do not supply block between 60-70

Robo              gate + sentry
1st immo        gate + sentry
2nd immo       sentry
3rd immo       3 gate + 1 sentry
wp                  2 gates + 3 sentry

Use 1st pylon for robo?
Build rest of the gates (3?) right after wp
More chrono, 3 chrono bef. rob

keskiviikko 23. tammikuuta 2013

PvZ after a break - this is what not playing a mu does to you

61st game
5:20              core finishes
5:31              robo put down
9:22             3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                  
9:13             7 sentries, 3 immortals, (wp) (target 9:15)
10:37           8 gates
10:07           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00            53 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 13 zealots
11:30            53 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 19 zealots     
12:00            53 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 27 zealots     
12:30            53 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 35 zealots

1st game
5:25              core finishes
5:36              robo put down
9:49              3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                  
9:55             7 sentries, 3 immortals, (wp) (target 9:15)
9:53             8 gates
10:41           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 4 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 4 zealots
11:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 11 zealots     
12:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 19 zealots     
12:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 27 zealots

gates were in weird places but that seemed to work if no sentries required earlier
l. gate timings and chronoboost timings forgotten. Many supply blocks.


2nd game
5:22              core finishes
5:26              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:18              3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                  
9:40             7 sentries, 3 immortals, (wp) (target 9:15)
10:04            8 gates
9:50             10 sentries, 1 stalker, 1 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 12 zealots
11:30           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 17 zealots     
12:00           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 24 zealots     
12:17           46 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 27 zealots

Forgot chronoboost for 1st stalker
1st immo       gate + sentry
2nd immo     gate + sentry
3rd immo      3 gates
wp                 2 gates

1 sentry could easily be made before 1st immo
if 1 sentry made before 2nd immo, there is no munny for 2 gates before 2nd immo
if 2 senties mabe before 3rd immo, there is no munny for 4 gates before 3rd immo


3rd game
5:22              core finishes
5:32              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:16              3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                  
9:16             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:25            8 gates
9:56             10 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 8 zealots
11:30           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 16 zealots     
12:00           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 21 zealots     
12:21           45 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 26 zealots

Forgot chronoboost for 1st stalker again :///
Robo             sentry
1st immo       gate + sentry
2nd immo      gate
3rd immo       gate + 2 sentry
wp                 4 gates + 3 sentries


4th game
5:22              core finishes
5:34              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:29              3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                  
9:22             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
11:07           8 gates
10:13           10 sentries, 1 stalker, 2 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 8 zealots
11:30           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 16 zealots     
12:10           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 24 zealots     
12:40           44 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 30 zealots


Robo             sentry
1st immo       2 gates + sentry
2nd immo      gate + sentry
3rd immo       gate + 3 sentry
wp                 3 gates + 1 sentry

Use 1st pylon for robo
Build rest of the gates (3?) right after wp
More chrono, 3 chrono bef. robo


5th game - @ asm - on laptop --> SO WEAK
5:27              core finishes
5:37              robo put down (target 5:30)
9:43              3 immo + wp (target 9:15)                                  
9:54             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:32           8 gates
10:18           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           41 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 6 zealots
11:30           41 probes, 1 stalker, 13 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 6 zealots     
12:10           41 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 9 zealots     
12:40           41 probes, 1 stalker, 10 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 15 zealots

Robo             sentry + gate
1st immo       gate + sentry
2nd immo      3 gate + 2 sentry
3rd immo       3 gates + 2 sentry
wp                 1 gates + 3 sentry

--> try not to be too eager to build gates
--> chrono robo moar

6th game - @ asm - on laptop --> SO WEAK
5:23              core finishes
5:36              robo put down (target 5:30)
10:06            3 immo + wp (target 9:15)         // because too many supply blocks :(                         
9:45             7 sentries, 3 immortals (target 9:15)
10:12           8 gates
10:24           11 sentries, 1 stalker, 0 zealots, 3 immo, wp                     
11:00           47 probes, 1 stalker, 14 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 5 zealots
11:30           47 probes, 1 stalker, 17 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 11 zealots     
12:10           47 probes, 1 stalker, 17 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 20 zealots     
12:31           47 probes, 1 stalker, 17 sentries, 3 immo, wp, 29 zealots

Robo             sentry
1st immo       2 gates + sentry
2nd immo      2 gates + 2 sentry
3rd immo      3 gates + 1 sentry
wp                 6 sentry

--> try not to be too eager to build gates
--> chrono robo moar
--> avoid supply blocks

sunnuntai 20. tammikuuta 2013

PvP practicing

http://day9.tv/d/Day9/day9-daily-439-huks-pvp-dt-play/

The plan
1) Relatively fast DT --> go poke with 2 dt:s
gate
gass
core
gass
twilight
2 gates
dt shrine
  • twilight only after scouting opponent
  • against aggressive builds kill the probe with stalker
  • mostly warp stalkers as a defence
If worried of early pressure (stalkers & sentires?):
2 gates
exp
 twilight
dt shrine

2) Expand with zealots & archons --> try to kill off with chargelot archon army
exp
2 gates
charge
2 guys in gass

3) 2 Robo play --> attack with 3 colossai
Robo
2 gass (not too early)
bay
forge
+1 attack
2nd Robo
push with 3 colossai

Finding out benchmarks
Generally good benchmarks are when you star building (put down) a key tech building, gate/rax number achieved, expansion timings, upgrade timings and if your plan involves an attack, the number of each unit in your attack.

1)
twilight put down
dt shrine put down
2 dt:s in enemy base timing

2)
nexus put down
charge ready
2 gates ready
2 archons ready
2 archons + chargelot army @ enemy base + zealot count

3)
Robo put down
Bay put down
+1 attack ready
2nd Robo put down
3 colossai ready
3 colossai at the enemy base timing + army composition