sunnuntai 28. lokakuuta 2012

More scouting

Scouting is funkey, but you should also react to the information you have obtained. Adding this to scouting practices.

7th game against plat protos playing zerg
Information scouted or missed Reaction to that information Could have maybe
When arrived @ base in Ohana: no pool or hatch (~14-5) Did not right away build forge but went forge nexus anyway. Should have gone nexus first? 1st lings are out ~4mins?
Built fast 3 bases. Better scouting of the 3rd.

Scouted roachtech and evochambers with obs. No lair. Build a lot of stalkers and immortal. Attack as taking 3rd. Could have maybe
Lair.

Infestation pit.

In the beginning of the game allowed opponent to have towers with lings.








8th game against dia terran
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
no 1 basingwent 1gate exp
army location at my 3rdpunished with wpTry to in the future observe if you utilized his bad army position and how you could have done so.
upgrades

3rd was scouted late
scout should have been peeking or standing in sweeter stop or directly in way. Would have been ok stand in way.
Did not scout ghosts tech

Did not scout rax vs. air vs. fac count
1 starport -> viking vs. medivac production. The opponent will either have less medivac ors less vikings.
Lot of rax -> bioarmy. Lot of fac -> mecharmy.
Scouted 2 vikings. Should have checked more often the viking count or if was making any more.Did not make colos.Should have either transitioned faster to templar or made more colos because 4 is very little and had only one starport.


When trying to take 3rd:
- if his army is too close do a wp harrash
- if he has not expanded make army big enough to protect your 3rd?
 
 !! probe production was bad !?



9th game against gold zerg
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
14itsh pool12 forge - nexus - cannonno cannon, 14 nexus & forge
2nd after poolno fear of one base
how fast takes gas

timing of 3rd (early/no/6min) teching normally, small push @ 8minwas after pool so should have not made pylons for cannons
scouted a lot of ling around 8minget the hell out of his 3rdhe has less drones because of this? -> will be slowed down -> colossus?
which tech banes/roachessentries, immortals, colo
lair timing

lair for mutas/infestors/nydus?


hive timing

when broodlards popping out ?

spire location

kept Xel'naga

4th timing
army size after battles


10th game against a gold zerg
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
14itsh poolWent Nexus firstProbe in Daybreak arrives at 14.
2nd after poolProceeded normally
how fast takes gas

timing of 3rd (early/no/6min)

no gass in 3rd or 2nd around 6:30none
which tech banes/roaches

lair timing

lair for mutas/infestors/nydus?


hive timing

when broodlards popping out ?

spire location

kept Xel'naga

4th timing
army locationWas not able to punish bad positioning.
army size after battles



11th game against a gold zerg
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
14itsh poolWent 15 forge, 15 nexIf not in 1st scouting position in shakuras make forge and nexus @ 14. Could have delayed cannon?
2nd after poolProceeded normally
how fast takes gasNot very fast.If 4 gass is going to roaches. If not is going to make more ling? Ling attacks are easy to deny so tech to fast colo?
timing of 3rd (early/no/6min) Tried to put on early pressure.
no gass in 3rd or 2nd around 6:30none
which tech banes/roaches

lair timing

lair for mutas/infestors/nydus?


hive timing

when broodlards popping out ?

spire location

kept Xel'nagaPartially allowed to follow army location and see comming attacks.
4th timing
army locationSaw incoming attacks and was able to reach to them.
army size after battles

Suffering from supply blocks and bad probe production. Next time try to remember this also.

12th game against a dia terran
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
no early gass, only one rax for long time1 gate exp is gogo because can not do something elseremember that can sneak another rax to natural so check this also, other hints?
check that truly expandsyep, did so

sneak early in to check gass and rax adds

sneak to 2nd and then to main
when is the army leaving the base
put scout or obs near his ramp
army locationscout near my ramp to enable nice ff:ing
upgrades

3rd/4th/5th base timing

Tech choice scouts

Did not scout rax vs. air vs. fac count

viking count


Rax count when 1/2/3 bases

Medivac count

Starport count

army size

army composition



Suffering from supply blocks and bad probe production. Next time try to remember this also.

13th game against a dia terran
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
no early gass, only one rax for long time1 gate exp is gogo because can not do something else
check that truly expandsyep, did so
sneak early in to check gass and rax addsprobe died :(
when is the army leaving the base
put scout or obs near his ramp
army locationscout near my ramp to enable nice ff:ing
upgrades

3rd/4th/5th base timingsaw 3rd, tried to send wp
Tech choice scouts

Did not scout rax vs. air vs. fac count

viking count


Rax count when 1/2/3 bases

Medivac count

Starport count

army size

army composition
probes @ 5/10/1519/43/62

Suffering from supply blocks and bad probe production. Next time try to remember this also.
Remember to make the 26th pylon. 

14th game against a dia terran
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
no early gass, only one rax for long time1 gate exp is gogo because can not do something else
check that truly expandsyep, did so
sneak early in to check gass and rax addsprobe died :(
when is the army leaving the base
put scout or obs near his ramp
1st attack seen from towerwent back but i was ready to react with ffsretake towers faster
2nd attack seen from towerDid not cancel 3rd warped a round of units. Should have warped two rounds and cancelled nexus. Maybe more gates at this point of game (had 6)
upgrades

3rd/4th/5th base timingsaw 3rd
Tech choice scouts

Did not scout rax vs. air vs. fac count

viking count


Rax count when 1/2/3 bases

Medivac count

Starport count

army size

army composition
probes @ 5/10/1526/63/x
Xelnagas were not retaken quickly
Remember to make the 26th pylon. Remembered.
Could have again punished expanding and moving forces by warping hell to his 3rd.

15th game against a dia terran
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
no early gass, only one rax for long time
do not let the probe die
check that truly expandsyep, did so
sneak early in to check gass and rax addsprobe died :(
when is the army leaving the basecancelled exp, made more units
1st attack seen by scout near his basewent back but i was ready to react with ffsretake towers faster
2nd attack seen by probe but not by me :(
Try to keep count on his medivacs to decide if a drop would be coming.
upgrades

3rd/4th/5th base timingsaw 3rd 9:50
Tech choice scouts

Did not scout rax vs. air vs. fac count

viking count


Rax count when 1/2/3 bases

Medivac count

Starport count

army size

army composition
probes @ 5/10/1530/53/71
Retaking Xelnagas


16th game against a dia terran
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
no early gass, only one rax for long time
probe did not get in
check that truly expandsyep, did so
sneak early in to check gass and rax addsprobe died :(not gone so deep into the base
bio unit count early on lowseemed weird but did not know what to doif low is maybe teching and you can go straight to robo to see what is teching into
1st attack seen by scout at xelnaga but not by medid not check banshee coming
2nd attack seen by scout at xelnaga but not by medid not see thor amount?
unit composition for the 1st attack

unit composition for the 2nd attack

Tech choice scoutssaw another factory and build 2nd robo because would mean mechscould have made a lot of stalkers to kill banshees and zealots and immortals or templars to kill thors. If armor ups immortals are maybe better.
3rd/4th/5th base timingsaw 3rd 12:08
upgrades

Did not scout rax vs. air vs. fac count

viking count


Rax count when 1/2/3 bases

Medivac count

Starport count

army size

army composition
probes @ 5/10/1523/48/64
Retaking Xelnagas


17th game against a dia terran
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
early gass, only one rax for long time

Did not go 1 rax expMade units & more gates. Took probes away from gass.Should have chronoed units and made more gates when ever possible
sneak early in to check gass and rax addstechlab, 2 rax
bio unit count early on highMade units & more gates. Took probes away from gass.Should have chronoed units and made more gates when ever possible
1st attack seen by scout at xelnagaGetting sentry fast!Sentry should have been earlier or chronoed.
2nd attack seen by scout at xelnagaFelt that there is no way to winCould have tried to stall at the ramp with ffs
unit composition for the 1st attack some marines and maraudes-
unit composition for the 2nd attacksaw a lot of bio and a lot of vacs-
Tech choice scouts--
3rd/4th/5th base timing--
upgrades--
Did not scout rax vs. air vs. fac count--
viking count--
Rax count when 1/2/3 bases--
Medivac count--
Starport count--
army size--
Retaking Xelnagas-
probes @ 5/10/1524/39/-


18th game against a silver zerg
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
Last position to scout but saw pool before 2nd. No units found and no larva banked.Went blindly 14 nexus + forge (taldarim)
Normally timed 2ndProceeded normally
No gasses taken around 3:40Might be taking 3rd because no gasses taken.If 4 gass is going to roaches. If not is going to make more ling? Ling attacks are easy to deny so tech to fast colo?
Timing of 3rd (early/no/6min) Deduced that early because was ready around 6min.
no gass in 3rd or 2nd around 6:30noneAssociate this with not much roaches early on? Made gasses @ 7:30 in main
Which tech banes/roachesRoaches with one evo chamber.
Lair timing Saw morphing being quite far at 11:50. Made pylons and cannons for mutalisks just to be safe.Should have tried to identify the tech.
Lair for mutas/infestors/nydus?


Hive timing Unit saw but i did not.
When broodlards popping out ?

spire location

sometimes had Xel'nagaAllowed to follow army location and see comming attacks.
4th timing16:40. Tried to also expand.
army locationSaw incoming attacks and was able to reach to them.
army size after battles
Probes @ 5/10/15 18 / 51 / 80
Suffering from supply blocks and bad probe production. Next time try to remember this also.


19th game against a plat protoss
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
Saw no buildings at enemy main.Thought that maybe cannons or 2 gate. Suspected 2 gate because no pylons found. Actually structures were just hidden.Check the enemy base completely!
Saw 2 gasses and unit being made from the gate.Did not attack.
One basing or expanding? (6 min)

Saw 1st attack coming.Unit at nearest Xel'naga. Warped units.
Saw 2nd attack coming as units leaving his base.Many stalkers but did not know the count.
Which tech pure gates/with robo/ with twilight (c or b?)

Unit at nearest Xel'nagaSaw the initial attack and made units.
Replacing lost Xel'naga control.Did not see 2nd attack coming. Could have if had had tower.
Probes @ 5/10/15 18 / 35 / 38


20th game against a silver random (toss)
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
Opponent teching normally.Did not get ready for a cheesu
After gate check own base.
Saw 2 gasses and unit being made from the gate.Did not attack. but poked a little ;p.
One basing or expanding? (6 min)Poked with 2 units @ 6min. No exp, a lot of stalker. Started suspecting blinkers.Which is better dt:s or robo in this case? Should have pushed a lot of unit?
Did not see 1st attack coming.
A zealot hanging around in front of opponent base.
No second attack.

Which tech pure gates/with robo/ with twilight (c or b?)

Unit at  Xel'naga (Antiga)Did not see attack commingin antiga place unit or pylon to extend naga visibility!
Replacing lost Xel'naga control.

Check actively for enemy pylons.

Probes @ 5/10/15 30 / 44 / -

21th game against a silver random (zerg)
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
Pool before 2nd. Went 15 nexus + gate (condemned)
Normally timed 2ndProceeded normally
No gasses taken
Ling attacks are easy to deny so tech to fast colo?
Timing of 3rd (early/no/6min) 4 min started at natu, some zerglings
No gass in 3rd or 2nd or 1st around 7minnoneAssociate this with not much roaches early on? Try to secure 3rd and tech to colossus.
Which tech banes/roachesRoaches with one evo chamber.
Lair timing

Lair for mutas/infestors/nydus?


Hive timing

When broodlards popping out ?

spire location

Had closer Xel'naga

4th timingSaw.
army location
army size after battles
Probes @ 5/10/15 16 / 49 / 68


22th game against a silver zerg
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
Pool before 2nd. Went 15 nexus + gate (cloud kingdom)
Delayed 2ndProceeded normally
One gass early. Proceeded normallyShould have pushed units out to get ready for attack.
Timing of 3rd (early/no/6min) 4 min started at natu, some zerglings
No gass in 3rd or 2nd or 1st around 7minnoneAssociate this with not much roaches early on? Try to secure 3rd and tech to colossus.
Which tech banes/roachesRoach warren at around 6:20
1st attack
Attacked with roaches and lings early on. Did not see comming.
Lair timing

Lair for mutas/infestors/nydus?


Hive timing

When broodlards popping out ?

spire location

Had no Xel'naga

4th timing
army location
army size after battles
Probes @ 5/10/15 16 / 39 / -


23th game against a silver zerg
Information scouted or missedReaction to that informationCould have maybe
Pool before 2nd. Went 14 nexus + gate (day break)
2nd normallyProceeded normally
No gass early.Proceeded normally
Timing of 3rd (early/no/6min) Started at 5min, found 5:40Should have prepared for an attack.
No gass in 3rd or 2nd 6minWill not come early with roaches. Tech to colossus.
Which tech banes/roachesSaw warren with obs at 9:04.
1st attack
Attacked with roaches and lings early on. Did not see comming.
Lair timing
Should have checked natural also with observer.
Lair for mutas/infestors/nydus?Saw infestor when they were out with observer at his ramp.

Hive timing

When broodlards popping out ?

spire location

Had no Xel'naga

4th timing
army location and size when I was maxed.
army size after battles
Probes @ 5/10/15 16 / 54 / 69Try to keep up the constant probe production until 15min! Seem to be forgetting after 10min point. Should list when missing probes. When building gate for the wall. When building additional gates. When building twilight to tech. When building wall to 3rd.

sunnuntai 21. lokakuuta 2012

Summary of things learned about scouting (will be updated)

1. The attitude or mindset actually has an effect! I am always too scared to scout zerg, however I very often push for information when playing against terran. This allows me to quite often have the feeling of over powering the terran. As a conclusion when ever scouting think "I'm scouting your game plan so get the hell out of my way".

2. A rather efficient way to improve seems to be the way of making a list of things to scout and then trying to improve on few of them at a time. It feels even more feasible if the list is arranged so that the things to be scouted are in chronological order.

3. It will improve your game sense if you write down what you scouted, how you reacted and what could have been a better reaction. One of the good starting points is to number the attacks that came and whether you were able to scout them and what was your reaction etc.

4. Scouting can be maybe grouped?
  1.  is it a cheese
  2. macro vs tech style? (base count vs gass count)
  3. 1st tech choice: T (bio/mech/biomech), Z (lings/banes/roaches), P (air/robo/twilight)

torstai 18. lokakuuta 2012

This weeks is going to be scouting practice!

vs Protoss (check out previous)

vs Zerg
- general overlord positions



Try to keep the Xelnagas!
Check how much do you let the opponent have intel!


During early game
PvP PvT PvZ
-after the gate search your base for proxy gates
- how much chrono does he have (4gate in time or not at all or not in time)
- 1 or 2 gasses?
- is gateway building zealot before core?
- if no zealot & 2nd gass + does not make another gate in time --> attack with stalker & zealot
- is the stalker chronoed or not (takes 10sec to pop out -which techpath
- one base or two? Scout at 6mins
- gass or not? 1 gass -> marauders/upgrades/bansheesh/medivacs
- how many barracks?
- use stalkers to peek at what units and addons
- pool timing
- 2nd timing
- how fast takes gas
- timing of 3rd? (if was not early check at 6min)

During mid game
PvP PvT PvZ
What is the colossus count?
What is the basecount?
- when are the medivacs comming
- is there a lot of (>5) air, rax or fac
- when 3rd?
- which tech banes/roaches?
- lair? -> mutalisks/infestors/nydus (~9min?)
(chekc out at somepoint the warp prism madness game :>> )


During late game
PvP PvT PvZ
- Base count - Base count.
- viking count
- hivetetech, scout when taking 3rd ~12min? -> when broodlards are popping out
- where spire is located?


1st Game against a silver zerg
Scouted exp first - should have gone cannons
Scouted no fast gass
Scouted no fast 3rd
Scouted lair with 2 total gass around 5:40
Did not see 1st attack comming - would not have suffered so much if saw. Could have seen by having observers or towers.
Did not have Xelnaga towers. Units were in the main army and accidentally drew them back.
Part of scouting failed because of faulty wall.
! in Shakuras it is good to place observers between the central cliffs
? before when zerg must have made tech choise? This one made roach warren around 6:30.

2nd Game against a gold zerg
Scouted 14 pool - yeah, was 14 pool - should have not made gate, should have made nexus, maybe even cancelled forge?  or maybe in Cloud Kingdom not necessary to get forge at 12? if not pool when you arrive then go nexus first?
Scouted 2nd. 3:03, no gass only pool. Is this late or normal?
Haha, pylon at 3rd cause it to be late and floating minerals. This pylon will be useful if did not take gasses. Because then can not do anything before has destroyed the pylon. 2 pylons even better?
Did not scout roach warren.
Scouted lair.
Had the other Xelnaga for quite long. Should have retaken.
Scouted hive and infestation pit and spire. Destroyed spire.
Did not pay any attention to gasses of 2nd and 3rd.
During late game was not aware of the base count.
Did not know about corruptors or broodlord count.
Did not know about ultralisks.
Keep observer in army to destroy creep.

3rd Game against a gold zerg
Same in Ohana, if no pool when you get to the base it is going to be exp 1st or 14 pool or later.
Delayed natural with pylon.
Should have checked 3rd base earlier.
Did not scout gasses until observer. Is this bad?
If does not take gasses from 2nd and 3rd will not have gass for units? -> makes mainly lings
Had good vision from Xelnaga during whole early game.
Scouted lair.
Scouted roach warren. Did not keep count on his roaches and lings?
Using a forward pylon near 4th & 5th -> usually fast reinforcements. Vision about expansions.
--> Scout tech and then go to his units.

4th Game against a gold zerg
Did not scout ninja 3rd even tho suspected it.And actively scouted the standard location.
Scouted latish pool, exp, relatively fast (?) gass. If pool is almost ready when you arrive to last location in antiga it was a 14 or later.
I gass in this case meant speedlings.
Scouted roach warren - but did not see many roaches mostly lings.
Scouted lair.
Scouted at 10:40 that had all 4 gass.
Failed to scout mutas? Moved observer away just before the gasses were taken and spire built. Moved observer back but did not check the back of the base.
Could not find his army. Scout locations where you do not want the army to be in and if is not in those then expand?
Scouted that units were mostly lings.
Had Xelnaga nicely until mid game.

5th Game against a gold protoss
Successfully scouted 4 gate - but reaction was wrong.

6th Game against a silver zerg
Was able to delay hatch for a bit
Scouted hatch first but did not have forge so went nexus first
Scouted one gass right after pool & hatch-> ???
When scouted at 5mins saw only one gass still and only pool as tech structure, when do zergs usually make new tech? at 6 mins? Roachwarren at 5:30, so scout maybbe a bit of?
Also this time fast 1 gas was associated with ling speed.
Scouted no 3rd before 8:30 so made sure not to expand too hastily.
Scouted no 3rd before 9:55 and though that was weird considering the small amount of units.
Scouted when the 3rd was finally built at around 12 -> as a reaction also expanded.
Scouted lair but did not "notice" it.
Scouted roach tech and that roaches were being made.
Scouted whenhad no upgrades.
Scouted when had 1-1.
Poor Xelnaga control.
Did not scout infestation pit.
Maybe more observers? Army obs + base obs at least?
Pylon scouted 4th a bit late. Maybe scoutery pylons placed even earlier at 4th and 5th?
Did not scout hive?
Overlord at the back of the 4th. If you think it is nice to place pylons at 3rd, 4th and 5th then maybe zerg thinks this same is nice to do with overlords and terran that with marines.
Would a 3 stalker scout squads be bad or overkill? Also observer against zerg? They could scout for hostile units and hold towers?

Thanks to nukkuj from some serious protips!

Scouting Protoss Shit Storms

  1. After the gate search your base for proxy gates
    • in your base
    • common places
    • actively check for forward pylons
    •  
  2. When scouting his base 1st time
    • how much chrono does he have (4gate in time or not at all or not in time)
    • 1 or 2 gasses?
    • is gateway building zealot before core?
    • if no zealot & 2nd gass + does not make another gate in time --> attack with stalker & zealot
    • is the stalker chronoed or not (takes 10sec to pop out)
    •  
  3. When scouting his base (4.45-5.15 min) --> 4 gate or not?
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Hallo, feels like it has been ages since I last played. One word my man, one word. GuildWars.

Maybe I should pick up a training schedule. Like 5 games per day etc. I just have to kick myself back to good practice.

Maybe I haven't played since I already got promoted to gold league and platinum feels unrealistic to be reached before next year..

maanantai 15. lokakuuta 2012

Yay, improving in mechanics

^___^ Just by knowing that this can be done I did it <3 <3
  1. pressing space (base hotkey) after building a pylon to get fast back to mineral line
  2. clicking a bit forward from gate/pylon/building before clicking from the minimap to keep probe moving (copied from HerO)

Back to basics?

I set up a list of small things to check that are ok.

Building placement:
Do units get stuck behind or between structures? How to avoid this?
How does your building placement act towards you and attacker when you are defending drops?
How do your buildings increase your base awareness?
Supporting mechanics: How do you perform building placement? How could it be more efficient?

Macro:
Nonstop worker production. Should the unit production also be nonstop or reactive? From robo and stargates maybe nonstop but from gates? Did you have too many or too few units? Why were there too much or too few?
Supporting mechanics: Checking probe & unit production frequently enough.

Expanding:
when ever you have enough units to defend your expansion and have enough money to build one. So basically? How much does he have units? Is he going to attack? Did you have enough units, too few units or too many units? Did you expand when you could have unit and money wise done so? When did these suitable spots occur? Did you make additional unit production facilities before you expanded?

Initial scouting:
How well did you control you probe? What do you want to find out? When can you leave and why? Did you probe die? Was your macro affected? How do pros perform this initial scout?

Keeping Xelnaga towers:
What are the benefits you find?

Army positioning:
Are you grabbing the best defensive advantage? How could you have more defensive advantage?

Teching:
Gass means going down the tech tree. When can you afford to start collecting gass or using it for tech? Haha, what if you just take gass very greedily like before some important first buildings? What can this lead to?
Does optimal teching mean that you place the tech as you have enough gass? So does optimizing a build mean that at that moment you will have enough minerals also?
Did you advance through the tech tree? Where did you stop? Why? How smooth was this advancement? Maybe make a plan how to tech through the whole three? What are the rock, paper and scissors? The amount of units might change its rock, paper, scissors status?

Upgrades:
Did you keep them strolling? Were you ahead or behind your opponent? Why did you not built forge earlier?

An incoming attack:
Did you see the attack coming? Why you did or did not? Did you know what upgrades, what composition and what unit count? What was your reaction? Was this the best solution or could something have been done otherwise?

...
seems that the list became quite long :p. Maybe just pick few things and check that you are improving on those. Or make it like a game: 1st 1 thing, then 2 things, then 3. etc. See if you can go over the limit of human mind (4-7).

sunnuntai 14. lokakuuta 2012

Some improvements against platinum Protoss

Improvements from Game 1
What went wrong/good Why went wrong/good Next time
< 3 probes in gassPhoenixes, man.Immediately put probes back to gass. and heck that there is enough mining.
Teched too early.Forgot to put the 2 gates.Immediately make 2 gates after expanding.
1st attack was bad.Got ffed, phoenixes causing havoc.Against zealots kite or sentries.
1st defenceBlink on zealots?Should have just built more units and waited..








Improvements from Game2
What went wrong/good Why went wrong/good Next time
Was behind in upgrades.Forge was very much later.Try to pinch in forge earlier.
3rd was later.Was too afraid too expand?Just force a defense point and punish him coming to attack by doing drops.
Map control.Did not have.If you are having 3 stalkers early you might just use them to have some nice map control by taking the towers.
Lost 2nd.Stalkers were not defending it. Not enough gass to do shit.Just warp early one zealot to get rid of the gass steal.






lauantai 13. lokakuuta 2012

Trying out Apollos protoss builds against bot



Game 1 Game 2 Game 3

3 stalkers out 6:05 6:00 5:48

3 gates + robo 9:42 7:09 7:06

expansion 6:47 8:18 7:50

5 gates 18:21 12:33 10:03

3rd base 13:07 12:29 13:50

bay 11:29 9:59 10:19

forge 9:06 10:14 10:22

weapon ups 12:48/15:23/18:31 13:44/16:36/19:54 13:35/16:11/19:17

armor ups 19:01 - 18:38

twilight 9:34 10:11 10:27

8mins 30 probes, 7 stalkers, 1 sentry 23 probes, 7 stalkers, 1 zealot, 2 sentries 27 probes, 7 stalkers, 1 sentries, 1 obs

12mins 54 probes, 16 stalkers, 4 sentries, 1 obs, 2 zealots, 1 immo 35 probes, 10 stalkers, 2 zealots, 5 sentries, 1 obs, 2 immo 51 probes, 10 stalkers, 1 sentry, 1 obs, 1 immo

15mins 65 probes, 21 stalkers, 5 sentries, 1 obs, 5 zealots, 2 immo 49 probes, 12 stalkers, 5 sentries, 1 obs, 3 immo, 2 colo 67 probes, 24 stalkers, 1 sentry, 1 obs, 2 immo, 2 colo

20mins - - -


Improvement points from Game 1:
What went wrong/good Why went wrong/good Next time
Made robo after expansion.Didn't remember correctly.Remember that you are doing 3 gate robo, pal ;p. Build production facilities before expanding and then quickly expand.
5th gate was very late.Didn't remember correctly.Remember: 3 gates + robo + 2 gates = 5 gates + robo = 6 production
Went for +3 weapon upgrades which aligned nicely.-However, no idea when 2nd forge should be gotten.
Forge was silent some time before research begun.Did not notice that forge was ready.Try to check up on forge by putting it to hotkey?

Improvement points from Game 2:
What went wrong/good Why went wrong/good Next time
Stalkers were not much earlier than before.Did not use chronoboost on stalkers.Use chrono on stalkers.
The 5th gate was late.Did not remember to add it before all the tech structures.Remember to add 2 gates after expanding.
Late expansion to natural.Cancelled because saw an attack comming.Do not cancel but wait and use to tank damage but cancel if seems to be destroyed.
Seemed to be so very low on gass.Teching too fast? Should natural gases be taken earlier? Should 3rd gasses be taken earlier? Was is wrong to warp senties?Dunno..
Too few probes. When putting down gass 16th probe was forgotten. When fixing missing rally point for nexus. When thinking about expanding. When in supply blocks. During attacks.All the times check hotkey for nexus!
Supply blocks.Was not constantly following supply.Say out loud the supply count.



Improvement points from Game 3:
What went wrong/good Why went wrong/good Next time
Maybe should not build second gass so early?2nd gate could be constructed earlier and 3 stalkers would be faster.Try to build 2nd gass only after 2nd gate or even later.
Could even fewer units be built before expanding?If could then expansion would be even earlier. Should robo be constantly held warm however?Try making even fewer units?
3rd base very late!Was making so much units.Try to cut more units.
There is no later game plan?No idea what supposed happen or what are supposed to be the benchmarks.Check Apollos videos and look for a replay even? twilight ½ of 1st +1 weapons, 3rd nexus + 2nd robo
Too few probes. When putting down gass 16th probe was forgotten. When fixing missing rally point for nexus. When thinking about expanding. When in supply blocks. During attacks.All the times check hotkey for nexus!
Supply blocks.Was not constantly following supply.Say out loud the supply count.


Just realized that there is no point trying to learn PvP from Apollo tutorials because his strategy was "3 stalkers and then react from that point onwards". Yet he teaches nothing about reacting that a player at my level could get something from.

Aw fuck, so basically this was just wasted time.

perjantai 12. lokakuuta 2012

Notes from Apollo tutorials

vs. Protoss
1) 2 gates: 1 stalker + 2 stalkers: make 3 stalkers to take map control and to deny his scouts
2) 3rd gate & robo
3) expansion + 2 gates + colobay + forge + twilight

vs. Zerg
1) 3 gate expand: 1 zealot, sentries (2nd gass right after core)
2) forge & robo & bay & twilight (quite fast colossus tech)
3) expand & 4 more gateways

or

1) forge fast expand
2) to 4 gates after exp
3) robo + twilight + exp

scouting:
- expansion or not
- lair or not
- drone count
- how many gasses taken
- early roach warren at 2 bases -> do not push out


vs. Terran
1) 3 gate expand or 1 gate expand
2) double forge & twilight & robo
3) 3 more gates
4) expand after 2-2 & add 4 more gates
5) archives & storm

Using hallucination in scouting
- research quickly after warp tech from core. how long takes? how many units costs?

Look for a good engagement!

Mechanics:
when was building gates and an attack came: moved to make units deal with attack and then went back to building gates

Scouting:
basecount
what is his tech
what is his army position

torstai 11. lokakuuta 2012

Studying HerOism

Spent 30mins watching Liquid'HerOs stream to make notes about his mechanics:

Stays at the zerg base with scout probe as long as sees a drone leaving?

Has two probes hot-keyed: the other is scout and the other is builder?
Quickly moves to builder to make the forge and then goes back to micro the scout at zerg natu.

Did not always have main army in one hotkey o.o
Had prism in a hotkey.

Had core hot-keyed when still building o.O and when researching
Does the core have a similar symbol as nexus when is chronoed? could he be checking this to ensure continuous chronoing?

After building a pylon with the scout probe made it move to location in same screen. Is this to preserve the movement of a probe to later give it a new target location?

The nexus building probe was standing and waiting at the spot where the expansion was supposed to be built.

Selected a probe and sent it to the spot where wanted to built. Did xxxx. Went back to probe to build gate. I do this also, Goodiness ^-^.



sunnuntai 7. lokakuuta 2012

Trying to beat my Terran friend - no success

http://drop.sc/262301

Scouted: rax, gass, marine
Follow up was: techlab, concussive, factory with reactor, cc, combat shield

1st Attack came with: 3 hellions,  2 marines,  2 marauders


What went wrong/good Why went wrong/good Next time
1st attack killed all unitsunits were not in the optimal position on top of ramp and no one was at towerput probe to tower, place units at the end of ramp
lost all probes from naturalHellions burn probes easilydo not attack hellions with probes, it will take forever from them to kill nexus (8 damage)
gaps in probe production after 11 minuteswas teching and making units from gates so maybe frogot1-2 1-2 1-2 == alternate between productions
supply blocks at 68 and 84was not actively thinking about supplythink actively whether you need pylons or not
2nd attack was denyed nicely

munny started to pile up after 12:304 gates, 1 robo, supply blockslook above, make another robo also against terran
did not know how many vikingshad no observer during late gamewhen making colossus try to find out the viking count
upgrades were lateforge was built so latebuild: gate, robo, gate, gate, forge?












PvZ adjustements in gold league part 2

Summary from previous 10 PvZs:
  • Won 5 Lost 5
  • For analyzing next 10 games write down zerg units and game length and number and time of attacks?
Some repeated mistakes:
  1. Scouting: 
    • allowed zerg to held map vision, was not aware what the zerg was teching into.
    • build more observers, scout more actively with units
  2.  Upgrading:
    • start +1 weapons after robo, when +1 armor is ½ way make another forge and twilight
  3. Reinforcing the army
    • make more offensive pylons, yet hidden

Game 1 - won - 8 pooling golden Zerg
http://drop.sc/262236

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