vs Zerg
- general overlord positions
Try to keep the Xelnagas!
Check how much do you let the opponent have intel!
During early game
| PvP | PvT | PvZ |
| -after the gate search your base for proxy gates - how much chrono does he have (4gate in time or not at all or not in time) - 1 or 2 gasses? - is gateway building zealot before core? - if no zealot & 2nd gass + does not make another gate in time --> attack with stalker & zealot - is the stalker chronoed or not (takes 10sec to pop out -which techpath |
- one base or two? Scout at 6mins - gass or not? 1 gass -> marauders/upgrades/bansheesh/medivacs - how many barracks? - use stalkers to peek at what units and addons |
- pool timing - 2nd timing - how fast takes gas - timing of 3rd? (if was not early check at 6min) |
During mid game
| PvP | PvT | PvZ |
| What is the colossus count? What is the basecount? |
- when are the medivacs comming - is there a lot of (>5) air, rax or fac - when 3rd? |
- which tech banes/roaches? - lair? -> mutalisks/infestors/nydus (~9min?) (chekc out at somepoint the warp prism madness game :>> ) |
During late game
| PvP | PvT | PvZ |
| - Base count | - Base count. - viking count |
- hivetetech, scout when taking 3rd ~12min? -> when broodlards are popping out - where spire is located? |
1st Game against a silver zerg
Scouted exp first - should have gone cannons
Scouted no fast gass
Scouted no fast 3rd
Scouted lair with 2 total gass around 5:40
Did not see 1st attack comming - would not have suffered so much if saw. Could have seen by having observers or towers.
Did not have Xelnaga towers. Units were in the main army and accidentally drew them back.
Part of scouting failed because of faulty wall.
! in Shakuras it is good to place observers between the central cliffs
? before when zerg must have made tech choise? This one made roach warren around 6:30.
2nd Game against a gold zerg
Scouted 14 pool - yeah, was 14 pool - should have not made gate, should have made nexus, maybe even cancelled forge? or maybe in Cloud Kingdom not necessary to get forge at 12? if not pool when you arrive then go nexus first?
Scouted 2nd. 3:03, no gass only pool. Is this late or normal?
Haha, pylon at 3rd cause it to be late and floating minerals. This pylon will be useful if did not take gasses. Because then can not do anything before has destroyed the pylon. 2 pylons even better?
Did not scout roach warren.
Scouted lair.
Had the other Xelnaga for quite long. Should have retaken.
Scouted hive and infestation pit and spire. Destroyed spire.
Did not pay any attention to gasses of 2nd and 3rd.
During late game was not aware of the base count.
Did not know about corruptors or broodlord count.
Did not know about ultralisks.
Keep observer in army to destroy creep.
3rd Game against a gold zerg
Same in Ohana, if no pool when you get to the base it is going to be exp 1st or 14 pool or later.
Delayed natural with pylon.
Should have checked 3rd base earlier.
Did not scout gasses until observer. Is this bad?
If does not take gasses from 2nd and 3rd will not have gass for units? -> makes mainly lings
Had good vision from Xelnaga during whole early game.
Scouted lair.
Scouted roach warren. Did not keep count on his roaches and lings?
Using a forward pylon near 4th & 5th -> usually fast reinforcements. Vision about expansions.
--> Scout tech and then go to his units.
4th Game against a gold zerg
Did not scout ninja 3rd even tho suspected it.And actively scouted the standard location.
Scouted latish pool, exp, relatively fast (?) gass. If pool is almost ready when you arrive to last location in antiga it was a 14 or later.
I gass in this case meant speedlings.
Scouted roach warren - but did not see many roaches mostly lings.
Scouted lair.
Scouted at 10:40 that had all 4 gass.
Failed to scout mutas? Moved observer away just before the gasses were taken and spire built. Moved observer back but did not check the back of the base.
Could not find his army. Scout locations where you do not want the army to be in and if is not in those then expand?
Scouted that units were mostly lings.
Had Xelnaga nicely until mid game.
5th Game against a gold protoss
Successfully scouted 4 gate - but reaction was wrong.
6th Game against a silver zerg
Was able to delay hatch for a bit
Scouted hatch first but did not have forge so went nexus first
Scouted one gass right after pool & hatch-> ???
When scouted at 5mins saw only one gass still and only pool as tech structure, when do zergs usually make new tech? at 6 mins? Roachwarren at 5:30, so scout maybbe a bit of?
Also this time fast 1 gas was associated with ling speed.
Scouted no 3rd before 8:30 so made sure not to expand too hastily.
Scouted no 3rd before 9:55 and though that was weird considering the small amount of units.
Scouted when the 3rd was finally built at around 12 -> as a reaction also expanded.
Scouted lair but did not "notice" it.
Scouted roach tech and that roaches were being made.
Scouted whenhad no upgrades.
Scouted when had 1-1.
Poor Xelnaga control.
Did not scout infestation pit.
Maybe more observers? Army obs + base obs at least?
Pylon scouted 4th a bit late. Maybe scoutery pylons placed even earlier at 4th and 5th?
Did not scout hive?
Overlord at the back of the 4th. If you think it is nice to place pylons at 3rd, 4th and 5th then maybe zerg thinks this same is nice to do with overlords and terran that with marines.
Would a 3 stalker scout squads be bad or overkill? Also observer against zerg? They could scout for hostile units and hold towers?
Thanks to nukkuj from some serious protips!
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